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Old Advice on second hand smoke @ 03-09-2004, 11:28 PM
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Hey, I know I haven't been on here in a while and that's just because I've been really busy. Hopefully things will slow down so I'll be able to get on more often. But I have a question. I work in a restaurant and there's also a bar in it and the bar is almost always packed, and if not there's always people there anywayz. And I mean, everyone there smokes. Not just the people at the bar, not just the people in the smoking section, but even the waitresses smoke sooo much. One of them goes through like five packs a day and it drives me nuts because they just sit there and blow the smoke in your face like it's not supposed to bug you. And then if you get up and move your seat (If the place is dead and you can sit for a minte) because of the smoke, they go "Well sorrry.." all annoyed like, and honestly, do they expect you to sit there and inhale their nasty habit? I think it's disgusting. I mean I don't smoke and I never will and I work there because it's good money and it's convenient, but I did research on this recently and found that approximately 3,000 people per year die of lung cancer due to second hand smoke...that's just breathing in someone elses cigarette smoke. I really don't want to quit this job because like I said it's good money and it's convenient, so I'd like to know is there anything I can do while I'm there to kind protect myself? I try to sit away from them but are there any little odd tricks anyone knows that can help you not to breathe it in? Sometimes I'll go in the bathroom for a minute and just stand there so I can breathe some air that isan't infested with smoke. It really is that nasty. So I was just wondering if anyone knew. I worked tonight and I just got home a little bit ago and my throat is all dry from the smoke and I can taste it in my mouth, I smell terrible, and the smell doesen't really bug me but it does bother me to think how my lungs probably look, especially since I've always been so set on not smoking. So, I was just wondering. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 03-09-2004, 11:31 PM
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So if 3,000 people per year die of lung cancer due to second hand smoke, how many people per year are exposed to second hand smoke that don't die?
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Old 03-10-2004, 01:46 AM
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I believe you have access to a computer so I don't see what's keeping you from looking that up yourself. And anywayz that's besides the point, sure the number of people who DON'T die from second hand smoke lung cancer is going to be a lot higher, but nonetheless 3,000 is still a really high number. Why should other people have to die or get sick because other people can't be considerate with their bad habits? I don't know. I think if anything indirectly kills that many people per year, you definately shouldn't be able to do it in a restaurant or any public place in that matter. My mom smokes, but I don't have any problem with it because she never does it in the house or the car. If people are gonna smoke, that's on them, it shouldn't effect those around them who have choosen NOT to smoke. That's my opinion.
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:07 AM
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A law passed here where u can't smoke in public places and you get fined a shitload if u do.
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Old 03-10-2004, 01:13 PM
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Yea, that's what I really dislike about the act of smoking. It harms the non-smokers too.
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Old 03-10-2004, 01:53 PM
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I used to smoke (been quit for a couple of months now) and I used to hate people like you. you have a legitimate point, in that you shouldn't be forced to accept the conseqences of someone else's actions (eg second hand smoke) but you made the decision to work in that place. there doesn't seem to be a way to avoid the smoke and work there at the same time so my advice would be to get over it or quit.

(btw, you should prolly do a little more research on second hand smoke.. I bet a very high percentage of the people who died or developed serious health problems were exposed to much more smoke than we're talking about here. spouses of smokers for example..)
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:00 PM
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I believe you have access to a computer so I don't see what's keeping you from looking that up yourself.
I was just asking if the valued website that you looked at showed their statistics in more than one way.
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Old 03-10-2004, 06:27 PM
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And the only way I can think of it to not be around it at work is to try to get your city to pass a law about smoking in a public place. Where I live you can't have a smoking section in a restaurant unless they make an enclosed section. And you can't sit in the bar unless you are 21 so some restaurants you have to be 21 to smoke there.

I do think its rude to blow smoke in other peoples faces, even if they do smoke themselves. I don't think all smokers are as rude as the ones you work with.
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Old 03-10-2004, 06:28 PM
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I smoke 11 packs a day.
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(btw, you should prolly do a little more research on second hand smoke.. I bet a very high percentage of the people who died or developed serious health problems were exposed to much more smoke than we're talking about here. spouses of smokers for example..)
So those who don't die don't suffer at all then?
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Old 03-11-2004, 09:23 AM
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Why should other people have to die or get sick because other people can't be considerate with their bad habits? I don't know. I think if anything indirectly kills that many people per year, you definately shouldn't be able to do it in a restaurant or any public place in that matter. If people are gonna smoke, that's on them, it shouldn't effect those around them who have choosen NOT to smoke. That's my opinion. [/B]
You are 100% right.I never ever smoked,in my family everyone does,but they DO respect me,so they smoke outside in the balcony when Im around.The point is that even in the restaurants and bars the just put both the smoking section and the non-smoking section exactly within the same room,and if u ask me,such a thing is useless as the smoke circulates reaching therefore even the lungs of non-smokers.Ridiculous!
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Old 03-11-2004, 02:17 PM
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So those who don't die don't suffer at all then?
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or developed serious health problems
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Old 03-11-2004, 07:32 PM
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They still risk it. Also some are allergic. The fact of the gamble is bad enough IMO. Anyway, even a slight (not serious) decrease in health is something I would be pissed about. I used to run track, and having alergies already hindering my breathing, you can be sure that I didn't like smoke. Personal pleasure shouldn't harm others.
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