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Old Analyze it @ 09-03-2002, 09:20 PM
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Analyze TES.Every single song(not skit)is rated on a scale of one to ten:
White America:10
Buissiness:9.5
Cleanin' OUt My Closet:10
Square Dance:9.5
Soldier:10
Sayin' Goodbye to Hollywood:9.0
Drips:8.5
Without Me:9
Sing for the Moment:10
Superman:10
Hailies Song:Breaks the scale
When the Music Stops:10
Say what u Say:9
Till I Collapse:10
My Dad's Gone Crazy:10

OVERALL(average them all together):9.6
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Old 09-03-2002, 11:08 PM
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Analyzing for me includes a pocket review:

White America: 7/10
Generally a good message, and a brilliant way to start the album as well. Kill You was as good a song, but no way to start off an album. The anthemic sound and "fuck you"s helped it stand out. But lyrics were lax in places and sometimes it wasn't sure what it wanted to be. It seems Em's finding it hard to write a song these days without including slightly below-par Don't Give A Fuck material somewhere. One of a few could-have-been-classics on the album.

Business: 7/10
Eminem's not as adept at this type of song as he was. Still there's some nice lines and I really like the beat. God, I miss Hellbound though.

Cleaning Out My Closet: 8/10
This is what I'm talkin' about...raw, savage, honest lyrics over the weird sort of kids-movie beat, worked well to give it this impression of kind of corrupted innocence. Can't help but shiver in parts of the last verse. with 2000-style skills this would have been a classic. As it is, it's fantastic.

Square Dance: 7/10
Best beat on the album, I think. Another eclectic track, hovering between illness, Bush dissing and plain nonsense. When it's good it's great, when it's bad...it goes "Hum-da-day da-da-da, oochie walla walla, um da day da-da-da, but ya gotta-gotta..."

Soldier: 6/10
Fake thug shit is SOOO 2001. Nice enough, a few good bits but disturbingly average.

Say Goodbye Hollywood: 9/10
Brilliant stuff. Prevented from classic status by Eminem's more forced style of rhyming, but nice carried rhymes and great beat make it listenable enough at first to feel it for longer. Insecurities, regrets, split loyalties, "Imagine going from being a no-one to seeing everything blow up and all you did was grow up MCing", all of that me likes.

Drips: 5/10
...down to earth with a bump. Where the fuck is Royce? Sign Hurricane G to Shady Records, why don't you? Obie Trice fucks up (and in) his verse adeptly, and Em's verse is good but a bit morbid for the jolly beat. Very good beat it is too. Shame, really.

Without Me: 8/10
Up again! Fast-paced, brilliant flow and the celebrity disses in the last verse almost make me think of MMLP Eminem again. Such nice stuff
Not The Real Slim Shady, but almost...

Sing for the Moment: 8/10
wtf was that first verse? The rest of the song was great, standard defense-of-my-art fare, and very good it is too. I sort of wish it had been calm and sarcastic though, sometimes Em takes shit too seriously. Calm and sarcastic would have been perfect and maybe even hilarious. As it is it's great, although the MMLP songs made better points more succinctly I think

Superman: 5/10
It's not a bad song. It's deeper than it seems at first, how can that be a bad song? Must just be that I don't like it. Must be the unbearable chorus which is longer than the verses. Must be the bog standard flow and 50% bullshit lyrics when they actually turn up.

Hailie's Song: 9/10
Complain about the singing all you want, I like it. The realest song around, surely. Not actually about hailie, more she's the focus of the song than the subject, but eh. The verse itself suffers from Must Rhyme Here Syndrome, but generally says it right. And I can't hear the song without singing along with the chorus. Beautiful.

When the Music Stops: 8/10
If they'd actually agreed what the song was about it'd rule. Not a verse was bad though, great beat and funny/sort of feelable verses.

Say What You Say: 5/10
Wow, this beat makes Tical look like a masterpiece of production. The lyrics are inane for the most part...I can't think of a good bit really. Best part of the song was the horns in the chorus and even they sounded bad with the beat. SKIP.

Till I Collapse: 7/10
Should be marked lower. But the feel of the song means I'll never really not want to listen to it, and that's worth something. Also I like to listen to the first and last verses and imagine the great rhyme schemes if they had better actual lyrics.

My Dad's Gone Crazy: 8/10
As it started well, so it finishes. The switch up for the last verse is fantastic, Hailie is cute, it's not a brilliant album ender but it's very good. Puts me in mind of Criminal in a way.

Overall? Add it up yourself, you lazy piece of shit. Not up to the standards I was used to from the last two solos, but still an album I really like and really less disappointing than I made out in parts above lol.

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I'll take chocolate chip, please. With a big glass of milk.
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Old 09-05-2002, 10:02 PM
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:D @ deciding not to make my perverted comment

White America: 7.5/10
Buissiness:6/10
Cleanin' OUt My Closet:9/10, though I'm a bit tired of it
Square Dance:9/10
Soldier:6/10
Sayin' Goodbye to Hollywood:8.5/10
Drips:7/10
Without Me:9.5/10
Sing for the Moment:5/10
Superman:8/10
Hailies Song:9/10
When the Music Stops:8/10
Say what u Say:4/10
Till I Collapse:7/10
My Dad's Gone Crazy:7/10
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Old 09-06-2002, 01:19 AM
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White America 10/10
I like the message he's trying to get across. I see it as more aimed toward the gov't than to any race. Plus I like the beginning of the 2nd verse. 'Look at these eyes, baby blue, baby just like yourself. If they were brown shady lose, shady sits on the shelf. But shady's cute, shady knew shady's dimples would help. Make ladies swoon, baby, ooh baby! look at my sales.' Dunno why, but that is SO catchy.

Business 10/10
I like this song more and more each time I listen to it.

Cleanin Out My Closet 9/10
People who 'hate' him should really listen to this song. Makes ya think.

Square Dance 10/10
LOVIN the chorus, really the whole song. Best beat I've heard in a long time.

Soldier 7/10
EhÖit's OK, I guess. The beat is lacking a bit. Skipper.

Say Goodbye Hollywood 6/10
Also OK, but definitely not one of my favorites. Just not into the beat. 'Nother skipper.

Drips 6/10
It's an OK song, just makes me sick to listen to it. Ew.

Without Me 10/10
This is another one that I blast. Great beat. Very catchy. Kinda reminds me of "The Real Slim Shady."

Sing For The Moment 10/10
A great update to a very classic song. Love the combo of Eminem and Aerosmith, 2 of my all time favorites. They blend well together.

Superman 10/10
Thought this was gonna be a sex song the first time I heard it. God a good laugh out of that one. I really like this song. It's different.

Hailie's Song 10/10
I think this is one of the best songs I've ever heard. It's real. And he's not afraid to sing even though he can't

When The Music Stops 8/10
This song isn't as bad as I first thought. The more I've listened to it, the more I like it.

Say What You Say 8/10
Not one of my favorites, but really not bad. The beat is OK.

Till I Collapse 10/10
Lovin the beat. Definite blaster. I like the cadence. Makes me wanna dig out the Warren G. CD.......

My Dad's Gone Crazy 10/10
Hailie is so cute in this song. I love it.

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Old 09-16-2002, 06:41 PM
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White America:9.5
--has a great message

Buissiness:8.5
-- on this song he flows, one of my fav. lines on the whole CD :

"Dial straight down the center, eight-zero-zero
You can even call collect, the most feared duet"
when he says that he totally flows

Cleanin' OUt My Closet:10
-- totally gives an insight to his life, and does it effectivly

Square Dance:8
-- a up-beat song

Soldier:9
-- good song, Inspires you to never give up

Sayin' Goodbye to Hollywood:8.5
-- another good one
Drips:8.5
-- i accually think this song has a positive message, to not go around sleeping w/ alot of people

Without Me:4
-- im sick of this pop shit

Sing for the Moment:10
-- great song, one of my fav.

Superman:7
--pretty good

Hailies Song:9
--shows a different side of shady

When the Music Stops:8
-- decent song

Say what u Say:6
-- its "ok"

Till I Collapse:9.5
--eminrm and nate go all out on this track

My Dad's Gone Crazy:9
--another good one
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Old 09-16-2002, 06:48 PM
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I haven't heard all of the album yet. But I'll reply at a later stage.
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Old 09-16-2002, 07:22 PM
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How long is it going to take you to hear this album? You said that a month ago lmao.
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Old 09-16-2002, 07:30 PM
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How long is it going to take you to hear this album? You said that a month ago lmao.
I'll listen to it some day, lol. It's already gathering dust.
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Old 09-16-2002, 09:24 PM
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Intro(7)--dumb but good start to the album

White America(8)--Nice first song...catchy and i like his anger

Business(8)--Great beat, fun to listen to

Cleanin Out My Closet(9)--So pure and honest...I love it

Square Dance(8)--Beat is off tha hook, chorus is funny, some lines are stupid "This white hot light that im under,no wonder I look so sunburnt..."

The Kiss(9)--GREAT way to start "Soldier"

Soldier(7)--Starts good but gets blah after a while

Sayin Goodbye to Hollywood(8)--Awesome flow, awesome beat, annoying chorus

Drips(6)--Stupid song Obie's verse was wack, Eminem's was ok. I like the chorus.

Without Me(9)--Classic first single, very catchy and fun. It also takes me back to MMLP...

Paul Rosenberg(3)--Stupid Skit

Sing For the Moment(10)--Awesome rock/rap song...the verses are off the hook

Superman(9)--Pretty pointless but good flow and great to listen to..something hooks me...

Hailie's Song(10)--AMAZING song...his voice aint THAT bad, chorus is really moving, the verse is ill.

Steve Berman(7)--Finally killed the fucker

When The Music Stops(8)--I love the way it starts wit tha beat building up (Kinda like Still/I dont give a fuck). Ends good too.

Say What You Say(7)--Kinda stupid but they really puttin out a message there about how they rap and why

'Till I Collapse(9)--Em really rips is..I love the whip crackin sounds

My Dad's Gone Crazy(9)--Great verses and Hailie's cute

Outro(10)--Great ending and really funny...I love Ken Kaniff..lol





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Old 09-18-2002, 04:06 AM
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White America:10
I love it when he's defiant!

Buissiness: 10
Got to love a man with his head in the game!

Cleanin' Out My Closet: 8
Not the best but it has a catchy beat.

Square Dance: 10
Love this song, really couldn't tell ya why!

Soldier: 10
I think this song stands for everything Em is!

Say Goodbye to Hollywood: 7
Very few good lyrics, beat totally sux!

Drips: 0
Just plain ass nasty!!

Without Me: 8
Typical Shady song but it could have been better

Sing for the Moment: 10
Just for having the Aerosmith linkage to it!

Superman:10
Love how he puts women in their place!!

Hailies Song: 10
No explanation needed!!!

When the Music Stops: 8
Good message just don't feel the beat!

Say What You Say: 10
Love it!! That's my boy!!!

Till I Collapse: 9
Kind of depressing

My Dad's Gone Crazy:10
Laugh my ass of to this song! Love it!!
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Old Re: Analyze it @ 09-18-2002, 05:02 AM
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White America:8.5
Buissiness:6.5
Cleanin' OUt My Closet:9
Square Dance:9.5
Soldier:8
Sayin' Goodbye to Hollywood:6
Drips:8.5
Without Me:9
Sing for the Moment:7.5
Superman:8.5
Hailies Song:9
When the Music Stops:9
Say what u Say:6
Till I Collapse:8.5
My Dad's Gone Crazy:8

OVERALL:8.1
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Old 09-18-2002, 05:39 AM
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White America: 8.5
Buissiness: 6
Cleanin' OUt My Closet: 7
Square Dance: 9.5
Soldier: 7.5
Sayin' Goodbye to Hollywood: 8
Drips: 6
Without Me: 9.5
Sing for the Moment: 7.5
Superman: 7
Hailies Song: 9
When the Music Stops: 7
Say what u Say: 5
Till I Collapse: 8.5
My Dad's Gone Crazy: 6

Overall feel: 8
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Smoke Old ok...... @ 09-18-2002, 06:14 AM
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heres my brief analysis.........

White America - 15/20

Business - 12/20

Cleanin' Out My Closet - 18/20

Square Dance - 18/20 (dope beat)

Soldier - 14/20

Say Goodbye To Hollywood - 13/20

Drips - 13/20

Without Me - 19/20 (based on original opinion, it IS beginning to grate now...)

Sing For The Moment - 17/20

Superman - 13/20

Hailies Song - 16/20 (pure emotion - a lot of rappers could never do this)

When The Music Stops - 18/20 (all apart from Mr. Peter S. Bizarre, who seems determined to wreck almost every D12 song he is on - except revelation. He MUST be able to rap.....)

Say What You Will - 19/20 (in my opinion one of tha dopest beats)

'Till I Collapse - 20/20 Hands down best song on the album for me



There we go - thats my two pence....

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Sad Old erm... @ 09-18-2002, 06:17 AM
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D'oh!!!!

Forgot...

My Dads Gone Crazy - 15/20

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